tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post24555174335034733..comments2024-02-24T06:10:42.255-08:00Comments on Congo Siasa: Diplomatic dance, military advanceJason Stearnshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11454449854081540397noreply@blogger.comBlogger150125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-8742879602769001662012-08-01T13:28:33.305-07:002012-08-01T13:28:33.305-07:00I don't see how Can someone claim to be Congol...I don't see how Can someone claim to be Congoles but get offended and atack their fellow Congolese just because their asking for justice for the victims of The Congo's HOLOCAUST.<br />It's very troubling to see how people like PK,BISMARK and athers are now targeting even the guy called RUCHURU IN LONDON for being one of the Tutis Congoles who are standing up to Kagame. They rather see him join the m23 than dare standing up to Kagame.<br />The Congolese people shall oppose this kind of behavior. the enemy within are more dangerous than the enemy you know.<br />now all those Rwandese who used to insult everyone who opposed KAGAME on this blog have pulled back and late PK ,BISMARK ....do the their job. Wake-up Congoles and know who your enemy is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-7548084452416235602012-08-01T08:39:30.541-07:002012-08-01T08:39:30.541-07:00@ano AUGUST 1, 2012 7:59 AM
Thank you for your go...@ano AUGUST 1, 2012 7:59 AM<br /><br />Thank you for your good contribution to the debate. <br /><br />@Rich<br /><br />I dont understand you, i dont get your frame of reference and I dont know what are your assumptions for reaching your conclusions.<br /><br />Please let me ask you some question for helping me to understand you better:<br /><br />". I think any government that could have come from the November 2011 elections would have done the same thing to ensure that the rule of law & order is gradually re-established in every corner of the national territory "<br /><br />You take as origine the elections, I am also sure that any governemnet would have wanted to re establish law, the question is what did Kabila do to re establish this. And what preventives measures did he put in place to prevent the negative reaction that he could expect from people he gave full power for years?<br /><br />"but I have no doubt, consequences would have been very much the same due to the ill state of our army and the time it REALISTICALLY needs to get well restructured & be able to deal with challenges like the one it is now facing in the Kivus. "<br /><br />Could you give us the origin of the army debacle and tell us what Kabila has done to address them? So at least we can give him credit for what he has done good and understand that there was no other outcome possible.<br /><br />"That said, other than voicing entertaining/frustrated sound bites on the ‘incompetence’ of J Kabila"<br /><br />I would really like you to propose us another path that kabila could take to bring our nation further.<br /><br />PK<br /><br /><br /><br />PKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-58507254921746225572012-08-01T08:08:39.562-07:002012-08-01T08:08:39.562-07:00@Rich,
Your answer does not address many of the ...@Rich, <br /><br />Your answer does not address many of the propositions that have been offered on this blog like:<br />Opening the political space, stopping represion against oposition and dealing with legitimacy issues through internal dialogue.<br /><br />Second you did not address the war and the patent lack of competency of the head of Congolese armed forces, Kabila.<br /><br />And nobody has forgotten that all started because Kabila attempted to arrest Ntaganda through internationa pressure. The international community wanting Kabila to give him Nataganda in exchange of their endorsement of the flawed elections (again flawed elections comes again). That waw genesis, now we are at the level of managing this war, and we see how it is managed.<br /><br />What do you want from oponent, who have already proposed you negotiation (at least the most moderate) ? Currently who has the imperium? <br />Rich I am genuinly trying to understand your point of view, maybe there are genuine assumption, I am mising. but not responding on the content and dissing everything on the form wont help.<br /><br />By saying that Kabila has led this country the best that the county coukd be led according to circumstances is a very terrible statement. Does it mean that according to you, embezzlement, lack os security, destruction of the army and no contingency plan against Ntaganda and Rwanda is the best that Kabila could have done and that no Congolese or opponent could do better?<br /><br />The quetion that I think you should ask is what Kabila could have done and what Kabila should do?<br /><br />I am not sure that you measure the disconnect between people like you who always find excuses for Kabila and for whom Kabila should continue his work (that is the impression you gave) without accounting for oposition (in a previous post you said that opposition should not expect too much) and the majority of the population that feel ripped off , humiliated and angry.<br /><br />And willing it or not this Ngoy Mulunda election has not finished to haunt you. Kabila had a chance to drive the country in the change it deserved .<br /><br />Curious observer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-78535603922751744092012-08-01T07:59:42.791-07:002012-08-01T07:59:42.791-07:00Rwanda is acting in bad faith. The 23 march agreem...Rwanda is acting in bad faith. The 23 march agreement allowed RDF (Rwandese Nationals) to join the hunt of Hutus genocidaires. These RDF participated in Kimia 1, Kimia 2, Umoja Wetu, Amani Leo, Amani Kamilifu. Most of these RDF soldiers never returned to Rwanda. They have become Fardc. It is an open secret. Unlike General Nkunda who is authentic true Congolese, Terminator Ntaganda is a Rwandese Citizen (even the ICC arrest warrant shows it). The Drc nationality law stipulates that everybody whose parents were in Congo on June 30, 1960 is a Congolese National. Ntaganda was born in 1973 in Kinigi, Rwanda. His parents were not in Congo in 1960. But, Kagame wants the world to believe that Ntaganda is Congolese. He is not. Kagame has to hand him over to the ICC. Rwanda wants to force Ntaganda down Congo’s throat as he did for Kabarebe who was presented to the Kinois public as a Congolese. Mzee LDK was compelled at gun point to appoint him as Congo’s Chief of Staff. More than 300 RDF SPECIAL FORCES are still operating inside the DRC where they are carrying out targeted assassination of Fdlr leaders. It is them who killed the FDLR Chief of Staff Col. Mugaragu and an elite battalion’s commander Col. Kanzeguhera. Other several important Fdlr officers have also been wiped out by those RDF commandos. Kabila has done everything possible to comply with Rwanda’s demands. But, Rwanda is not an honest peace broker. It is worth to note that there are two Fdlr: One still commanded by General Rwarakabije (a former Fdlr Chief of staff who defected to Kigali from where he still coordinates operations inside Kivu aimed to sabotage the DDRR operations). It is this group that is used to manufacture blackmails and treason accusations against Rwandese opposition figures, like Mushayidi, Ingabire. As the Group of Experts found it, this group includes Fdlr who are repatriated from Drc, sent to Rwanda, demobilized, and then sent back to DRC, when the need arises. So, it’s a vicious circle. The Fdlr will never go away because Kagame wants it to remain alive so he can cash on it and build his propaganda on the endless menace the group represents to Rwanda. The second group includes those who were in conflict with Rwarakabije in the bush; and who are afraid of returning to Rwanda; especially now that Rwarakabije is the Head of Rwandan prisons. In Congo, Tutsis represent less than 1% of the total population. Yet, in Kivu, 90% of colonels, and other higher ranking officers in Fardc, are Tutsis. As a matter of fact, Tutsis have 20 generals within the Drc army! Hunde, Nyanga, Bashi, Bembe, etc. have none. The Inspector General of Police, the MD and CEO of all Congo Revenue, the General Auditor of the FARDC, the Chief of Fardc Logistic, the Commandants of Fardc in the provinces of Bandundu and South-Kivu, the Commandant of Kitona Airs base, etc. are Tutsi. Most of the current operation Commandants (regiments) in Kivu, are Tutsis. Where is the discrimination against them? All the defecting officers had ‘jeeps de commandement’ (which they burned down). No other Congolese president would favor Tutsis as Joseph Kabila did. No wonder that some say that he is also a Tutsi. Can you imagine: all the Fardc soldiers and Commandants who are fighting M23 are Kabila loyalist Tutsis. To avoid a fratricide war, loyalist Tutsis soldiers keep withdrawing from their positions. But the point is that Congolese Tutsis are very much afraid of the M23 war backlash! They know that Kagame will come and go, but Congolese Tutsis will have to live with other Congolese whose families have been wiped out by Kagame’s mass crimes whereby Congolese have been killed (1000 in Kisangani, 200 in Kiwanja), burn to death (876 in Makobola), buried alive (14 women in Kasika), castrated ( 12 men in Karuba):<br /> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/africa_views_on_nkunda0s_arrest/html/8.stmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-20723216965080983852012-08-01T07:37:10.123-07:002012-08-01T07:37:10.123-07:00Dear Rich and Blaise, I want to make clarification...Dear Rich and Blaise, I want to make clarification that the origin of war in Congo isn't Bosco Ntaganda. <br />The Ex.CNDP soldiers are claiming to the Kabila government to respect the agreements signed on 23 March 2009. If you are advisers of Kabila, you are putting him in a big whole. So we may advise Kabila to accept the negotiation with rebels instead of fighting because with that way he can not succeed. M23 soldiers are the best soldiers of Congo. Kabila can accept the negotiation and finish with the war. I think that this will be the best way of peace in Congo. If I understand why M23 is fighting ( for Democracy, rule of law, good governance, Security, development...) you and me can give them all our support to them. Try to think how Congo is very very rich but his citizen are very very poor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-46376468962438188762012-08-01T06:10:38.645-07:002012-08-01T06:10:38.645-07:00Here is what patriotic M23 is fighting for: democr...Here is what patriotic M23 is fighting for: democracy, rule of law and good governance: <br />http://radiookapi.net/en-bref/2012/08/01/nord-kivu-une-trentaine-de-camions-bloques-kirumba-dune-taxe-imposee-par-le-m23/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-28610502774337399772012-08-01T04:49:13.794-07:002012-08-01T04:49:13.794-07:00Congolese CENI’s President Pastor Daniel Ngoy Mulu...Congolese CENI’s President Pastor Daniel Ngoy Mulunda in Multi-million scandal dollar corruption scandal!!!<br />==================================================<br /><br />Wonder why JK won the elections in 2011? Just read this piece of article from afroamerica.<br /><br />http://www.afroamerica.net/AfricaGL/2012/07/31/is-the-noose-closing-around-congolese-cenis-president-pastor-daniel-ngoy-mulunda-colese-cenis-president/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-16765387554357221852012-08-01T04:48:40.994-07:002012-08-01T04:48:40.994-07:00Bruno –
Good to read from you.
Ref # “ I'd j...Bruno –<br /><br />Good to read from you.<br /><br />Ref # “ I'd just be curious to know what you think about this comment:<br />"Kagame needs this war to maintain his grip on the Kivus, Kabila needs this war to divert attention from his legitimacy shortfall and earn 'bipartisan' support from the Congolese"...”<br /><br />I should be more than happy to speculate on ‘very strong’ assumptions but the problem is how do we measure their level of uncertainty?<br /><br />All I know is kagame has been opened on what he wants from the DRC and according to what he says, though I have major misgivings with what comes out of his mouth, I can summarise that there are legitimate (security) reasons and not so legitimate ones, (for instance, bidding for impunity & parallel chains of commands in favour of have indicted war criminals & other undisciplined army officers within FARDC in order to insure the protection of Rwandan security and business networks in the great Kivu) from his involvement in the current crisis.<br /><br />As for Kabila, I’m not sure how you arrived at your conclusion but all I can say is that I don’t think he’s managed to top-up his legitimacy or indeed earn ‘bipartisan’ support from this war. I can conclude quite to the opposite, when we judge from some credit he gained when he, for instance, nominated Matata Mponyo as PM or indeed stifled the ongoing ‘mutiny’ at its very beginning & putting some ‘powerful’ Rwanda’s backed high ranked army officers on trial and got them sentenced heavily...<br /><br />Ref # “Do you not sense that contrary to prima facie observations, Kabila is actually very happy about what's happening in North Kivu as it gives me the opportunity to pose as the commander-in-chief, the "father of the nation in danger"? Just a thought-provoking query....”<br /><br />If anything, I think this war has so far weakened to an extent his influence within the army, something he has rarely experienced since he is in power. I wouldn’t draw any conclusion now since the situation is very dynamic & highly unpredictable.<br /><br />Anon JULY 31, 2012 5:42 AM<br /><br />Ref # “I am also very interrsted in what @Rich would say. He is the most inteligent of the pro Kabila... Please react with a well thought answer.”<br /><br />1. I decided to engage only rarely with anonymous since I find the whole idea of refusing to identify oneself, even with a nickname, as disingenuous. I say this because people should be able to assume the consequences of what they say in public.<br /><br />2. Your comment sounds so unfair & patronising that it suppresses in me any desire to address it.<br /><br />3. And last, I won’t see myself as a pro-Kabila since I know many pro-Kabila and I often have massive disagreements with them when we get a chance to debate. Anyone who knows me outside congosiasa can confirm that.<br /><br />Sorry if this sounds harsh or disrespectful but I thought it would be helpful if I was blunt yet honest with you.<br /><br />In conclusion, it is quite remarkable to see how people tend to forget that we are now talking about this war because the DRC government wanted to arrest bosco ntaganda and redeploy ex-cndp officers outside Kivu in order to gradually tackle impunity & parallel chains of command within the army. I think any government that could have come from the November 2011 elections would have done the same thing to ensure that the rule of law & order is gradually re-established in every corner of the national territory but I have no doubt, consequences would have been very much the same due to the ill state of our army and the time it REALISTICALLY needs to get well restructured & be able to deal with challenges like the one it is now facing in the Kivus. That said, other than voicing entertaining/frustrated sound bites on the ‘incompetence’ of J Kabila, I’m yet to find out the DETAILS of what the Congolese opposition suggests to adequately solve this crisis. <br /><br />RichRichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01301460106025447019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-70749610384057800432012-08-01T04:29:45.141-07:002012-08-01T04:29:45.141-07:00@ august 2012 4:14am
I agree with you 100%, congo ...@ august 2012 4:14am<br />I agree with you 100%, congo need a new leader urgently. We realy need to find a way to get rid of Kabila, he is the main obstecle. I wonder if it's possible for a commander or anyone to ignore the government of Kinshasa and work out a solution to fight the M23 and mobalise support. this is so frustratingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-30146759358148057562012-08-01T04:23:29.499-07:002012-08-01T04:23:29.499-07:00exactly, Kabila can explain most of these disastru...exactly, Kabila can explain most of these disastruous situation but as he is still there , we dont have the luxuary to just seat and observe.<br /><br />Everyone can make a difference. Inside DRC it is difficult because most of the pople benefiting from this situation are in power and create an environment where rising agaist them can become dangerous . For each Diomi, Chebeya, Tungulu, Mokia, there are many anonymuos no name who disapear without trace . I made the tour of the prison in Kinshasa once and you cant imagine the numbe of people arrested just because they said the wrong things at the wrong place victims of zealous member of the regime. That was a visit on official detention center, so i am wondering how many are in secret detention centers..<br /><br />Still, knowing this situation it is time to get ready and make a difference, if there is a critical mass of serious people, all our crooks will have more and more difficulties. <br /> <br />EVERY CONGOLESE WHOEVER HE IS AND IN WHATEVER POSITION HE OFFICIES, MUST WORK FOR CONGO AND NOT FOR A REGIME.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-81364816161868652022012-08-01T04:14:49.246-07:002012-08-01T04:14:49.246-07:00Blaise,
The first thing to do is to stop looking ...Blaise,<br /><br />The first thing to do is to stop looking for scapegoats; we used to see this working for politicians; but unfortunately for DR Congo, "les garants de la souveraineté nationale" FARDC men and commanders have adopted the same attitude. They will tell people all sort of nonsense to justify why they are fleeing. Yesterday it was Rwandan soldiers, today is lack of ammunition, tomorrow no one knows what they will tell us. By the way,suppose that Rwanda forces are helping the rebels,the question one can ask is why can't FARDC stand and fight against Rwanda defense forces? Contrary to what we were told before, FARDC are the one receiving a lot of support from western nations;<br />it happens that a senator in Belgium who was not well informed as most of us in the public opinion called for Belgium to stop military support to Rwanda; the response from the ministry of defense was : .."The two (DRC and Rwanda) are not comparable.The Belgian military cooperation with Rwanda is minimal, Belgian aid is to supervise eight Rwandan students at the Royal Military School; military cooperation is much more intense with the Congo where, in particular, whole battalions are trained."<br /><br />I believe this is another " Aha moment" for most of you, plus the famous 200,000Us$ aid from the US to Rwanda.<br /><br />The moral of the story is that a country doesn't need billions $$ to mount a formidable army; <br />source:<br />http://www.7sur7.be/7s7/fr/1505/Monde/article/detail/1478053/2012/07/30/La-cooperation-militaire-belge-avec-le-Rwanda-est-minime.dhtmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-3687957383405454992012-08-01T03:39:03.729-07:002012-08-01T03:39:03.729-07:00Mr Pako,a Congolese diplomat, said that Congo has ...Mr Pako,a Congolese diplomat, said that Congo has a lot of leaders. Even though we don't agree about who to blame for this mess, it's something that had me thinking.<br />Maybe the failure is collective since we didn't step in the void. I don't know. I will say like LD Kabila,but for different reasons,let's get organize. Whoever have even the tiniest power in Congo should exercise it to change his/her environment. A little coordination will be nice.Maybe together we can make something happening.blaisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10271081481475980902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-47954139571252572192012-08-01T03:11:24.460-07:002012-08-01T03:11:24.460-07:00Ultimately, we will rise and defeat the occupant. ...Ultimately, we will rise and defeat the occupant. I hope that all those who supported Kabila (the trojan horse) since 2006 are now realizing the mess in which he has put us. His sole objective has been to help divide the Congo and regarding this specific pledge, he is delivering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-45144990786158387162012-08-01T02:16:06.654-07:002012-08-01T02:16:06.654-07:00@anonymous-AUGUST 1, 2012 1:46 AM
I agree 100%!!
...@anonymous-AUGUST 1, 2012 1:46 AM<br /><br />I agree 100%!!<br />We should have Mai Mai cells everywhere.<br />In-fact people in Diaspora, you can also create your own Mai Mai cell to resist Rwanda/Uganda propagandists on the web.<br /><br />Rutshuru/LondonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-27814758375629775902012-08-01T01:46:48.542-07:002012-08-01T01:46:48.542-07:00I urged all the Mai Mai soldiers to stand up and f...I urged all the Mai Mai soldiers to stand up and fight these Rwandans. We cannot have a repeat of 1997Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-32521397532291082982012-08-01T01:37:16.701-07:002012-08-01T01:37:16.701-07:00this last post shows that
1) Fardc does not have ...this last post shows that <br />1) Fardc does not have am to leave to M23, theybjust don't have enough for themselves.<br /><br />2) the treahison of Kabila, PK, Bismarck are right, Kabila is purposefully depriving our army, thus our people, with mean to defend our soil.<br /><br />We are no more at th building an army stage we are at giving soldiers who are ready to fight amo and food. Even Mayi Mayi are more organized that Kabila national army. That is also our army.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-56946546423376590772012-08-01T01:24:18.052-07:002012-08-01T01:24:18.052-07:00Top Conga FM bbm bulletin
Inquiétudes à Goma, l...Top Conga FM bbm bulletin<br />Inquiétudes à Goma, l'ONU veut faire pression sur les soutiens du M23.<br /><br />Goma est menacée, les rebelles et leurs soutiens rwandais ont commencé à encercler la ville "qui ne va pas tomber", a dit à TOP CONGO FM, le colonel Célestin Ngeleka, porte-parole au Nord-Kivu des FARDC.<br /><br />Le conseil de sécurité de l'ONU, qui s'est saisi de la question, veut aujourd'hui faire pression sur les soutiens des rebelles.<br /><br />Dans un rapport fait au Conseil de sécurité, Roger Meece indique que "les troupes gouvernementales manquent de munitions et abandonnent des villages au M23..., mieux équipé et dont les effectifs ont augmenté depuis quelques semaines". <br />Selon le représentant spécial du secrétaire général de l'ONU en RDC, "les FARDC ne sont plus en mesure de résister à l'avancée du M23".<br /><br />Rwanda et Ouganda sont montrés du doigt.<br />Le Rwanda, malgré les évidences continuent de démentir.<br />L'Ouganda, par l'adjoint de son ministre des affaires étrangères, a déclaré n'avoir "aucun intérêt à participer à ce conflit".<br />Kampala, qui s'apprête à accueillir les 6 et 7 août un sommet des grands lacs, dit ne souhaiter que "ramener la paix et l'harmonie dans la région".<br /><br />Le conseil de sécurité discutait hier mardi jusque tard d'une déclaration qui mettrait en garde les rebelles.<br /><br />Pendant ce temps, en RDC, "pour la paix et face aux menaces de balkanisation du pays", l'église catholique congolaise organise des marches ce 1er aout, jour férié (fête des parents).<br /><br />BBM TOPCONGO FMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-21195447278997793542012-08-01T01:03:16.176-07:002012-08-01T01:03:16.176-07:00@Bruce
What else do you need as proof that Kabila...@Bruce<br /><br />What else do you need as proof that Kabila is a trojan horse?<br /><br />1) Who removed General Mbuja Mabe from duty after his success against CNDP in Su-outh Kivu?<br />2) Who orchestrated the "battle of Mushaki" where tanks, ammunition including sol aircraft missiles were handed to CNDP?<br />3) Who negotiated secretly the deal allowing the presence of Rwandan troops in Congo<br />4) Who removed the Speaker of parliament when he criticized this unconstitutional move?<br />5) Who does his best to disorganize the army (i.e: not paying them, not supplying them during war)?<br />On and on?<br /><br />I hope you do not belong to that clique of congolese around Kabila who say of the Kivu people in a typical swahili:<br />"Bote ni balundji"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-4536345037098702742012-08-01T01:00:39.841-07:002012-08-01T01:00:39.841-07:00@anon 2:47 AM.
It would be nice to have a name to ...@anon 2:47 AM.<br />It would be nice to have a name to attach to all these comments !!<br />I repeat once and for all: defections from the FARDC and equipments abandoned on the ground don't explain the significant increase in fire power and numbers. So much so that M23 is now better equiped than the FARDC....please. Next time that M23 attacks with helicopter, you will have us believe that they got both aircraft and pilots from the Congolese army.<br />Different perception of events, I suspect we haven't been living in the same planet.... or maybe its just like the Belgian drones involve in aerial surveillance for the the past 2 months. Having spent some time in the DRC, I know for a fact that western countries coordinate their actions/statements with regard to DRC. They probably have more compelling evidence of Ugandan/Rwandan actions in Eastern Congo than what has made headlines; just remember the Cuban missile crisis in 1962. Believe me, when the USA decides to apply serious pressure on Uganda/Rwanda, M23 will disappear as quickly as it came. Maybe then, you will stop denying the obvious.Patricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-73431350718721417452012-08-01T00:53:45.992-07:002012-08-01T00:53:45.992-07:00For more insight on the changes happening on the g...For more insight on the changes happening on the ground in the east, read this from Alex Engwete:<br />http://alexengwete.blogspot.fr/2012/07/drc-government-as-wordsmith-diplomatic.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-37378779749114792902012-07-31T22:59:13.116-07:002012-07-31T22:59:13.116-07:00@ PK
Thanks for your illuminating posts. "Th...@ PK<br /><br />Thanks for your illuminating posts. "This DRC Rwanda/Uganda rebellion is a mess for the USA and all donors" is a point not lost on American readers of Congo Siasa.<br /><br />I have a question related to Congolese domestic politics regarding the role played by Antoine Gizenga and PALU in turning the tide in both the 2006 and 2011 presidential elections...I'm finding it difficult to reconcile his support for Kabila with accusations that frequently appear on this blog that J Kabila is a "fifth columnist" or "trojan horse" etc.<br /><br />Criticizing government ineptitude is a vital part of the democratic process...disparaging Kabila's patriotism seems to cross another threshold altogether.<br /><br />If a pere fondateur like Gizenga leveled those kinds of charges they might be more persuasive.<br /><br />BruceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-39991783379908808802012-07-31T22:01:21.374-07:002012-07-31T22:01:21.374-07:00@Bismarck, Blaise, Bruno, anonymous and all
Thank...@Bismarck, Blaise, Bruno, anonymous and all<br /><br />Thank for your appreciation of my post, however. Have just been saying what most of you and others compatriots are saying. There are congolese who love this country and who sees a very different path for its future than the path that Kabila is leading us in. I also know that many Kabila supporters and working with him read this blog. I hope that analysis they read are showing them irresponsibility of their politics and that every each of them at his own level will start to work for the country, like these soldiers who even without being fed for 4days still fight for their countrymes. our leaders should be at the same level of dedication and if Kabila is unable to do that, it is more than time to all the true congolese around him start turn the tide, they won't have any excuses.<br /><br />Regarding the situation, the military situation is extremely bad, FARDc are basically besieged in Coma, their back on Rwanda and facing M23/RDF in Kibumba. With UPDF assuring rear logistics.<br /><br />Also read the 28 Rwanda responses, there are interesting points like the Radio,or expert in meeting with a person supposed to not be there. But these might be the only points that can raise suspicions and even the Radio point is not convincing. RDF does not have only one type of radio that it uses. They have military grade radio and normal radio depending on the level of confidentiality and plausible deniability they want to have. <br /><br />The testimony part of Rwanda report is a soap opera scenario, with Rwanda officials begging M23 rebel to surrender to FARDc officials but not MoNUSCo, with James being the gentle soul giving morale lessons to Rebels and spending his time calling Kinshasa to warn them of the M23 attack. I am sure they have been laughing while writing it. I have not seen annexes and waiting for them. However everyone knows that Rwanda is involved, Uganda involvement is just surfacing now and I don't think that Clinton is coming to cuddle Kagame and Museveni.<br /><br />This DrC Rwanda/Uganda rebellion is a mess for the USA and all donors. They are starting to understand that by turning a blind eye on Kagame prowess and bankrolling him they have created a monster for the great lakes and an embarrassment for themselves. The suffrances pouring out in tv screens every day is just non understandable. Most of African countries and mostly the one that counts the most South Africa and Sadc are also tired or Rwanda bully behaviour.<br /><br />The problem is that despite international presure, on the ground Rwanda , with Uganda keeping its rear and thanks to Kabila military skils,is in a very strong position to push for another treaty that Kabila will again negotiate himself, for the good of the nation.<br /><br />From what I heard the national dialogue will not take place and opposition bullying and intimidation will continue... To those who have.....<br /><br />PKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-74165425668704999412012-07-31T20:35:07.998-07:002012-07-31T20:35:07.998-07:00@ July 31, 2012 3:51 PM
@ July 31, 2012 6:01 PM
...@ July 31, 2012 3:51 PM <br />@ July 31, 2012 6:01 PM <br /><br />You are entirely right here, this person is either incapable of writing in English or is simply another one of the one dimensional JK lovers who are incapable of defending him with facts in English on Congo Siasa. Get you own blog in your own language and stop polluting somebody else blog with gibberish. <br /><br />Can anyone translate please???<br /><br />BismarkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-22776702802248103822012-07-31T19:25:46.237-07:002012-07-31T19:25:46.237-07:00There is nothing new in that Rwandan response,ever...There is nothing new in that Rwandan response,everyone was already expecting that kind of response from KIGALI and no one expected KAGAME to come clean and admit his meddling in the DRC . The evidence against Rwanda is very overwhelming and that's the reason why it took them a long time to respond. It was funny to see LOUS MUSHIKIWABO playing the PANAFRICANISME game in the NAIROBI conference in order to get the support of the same AFRICANS that her and her boss PAUL KAGAME have been treating like inferiors for the last 18 years. (we are the best leaders in Africa,we are the African Singapore,our country is not corrupt like all those ether African Countries,bla bla ,bla...)Now KAGAME is the new MUGABE .lol.maybe he thinks that by being both a SADAM HUSEIN and MUGABE he will be able to weather the SUNAMI that is moving his way from the north.<br />The m23 is a domed movement,they might score some military victories in Bunagana or Kiwanja but they are not going to reach Goma or Bukavu and soon they will be dislodged from Bunagana and elsewhere. KAGAME needs to pull his troops out of the DRC, disarm his M23 terrorists,deliver BOSCO NTAGANDA to the ICC ,start real reconciliation in Rwanda ,and repair ties the DRC before it's too late .congo manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281097988239620048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1209670742820403516.post-30955898627975427482012-07-31T18:01:26.701-07:002012-07-31T18:01:26.701-07:00I could not agree more with the commentor from Jul...I could not agree more with the commentor from July 31 2012 3:51pm.<br /><br />Stearns is an American, this is an American blog about the Congo, Americans speak in English, and blog posts should be in English. <br /><br />Incredibly annoying to read posts in languages other than my nation's mother tongue. <br /><br />Its totally fine if you want to curse all Americans to the depths of hell.<br /><br />Do it in English, folks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com