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Wednesday, October 30, 2013

As the M23 nears defeat, more questions than answers

The new round of fighting between Congolese government forces and the M23 rebels is reaching a dramatic climax. With the Congolese army having swept through all of the major towns that the M23 held––Kibumba, Rumangabo, Rutshuru, Kiwanja, and since this afternoon Bunagana––the  M23 may be nearing its end. This would be historic––it would be the first time the Congolese government had defeated a major rebellion, and it would be the first time since 1996 that an armed group allied to Rwanda is not present in the eastern Congo. It is, however, too soon, to declare an end to the M23, as the rebels reportedly still occupy the hills along the Rwandan border between Runyoni and Tshanzu.

How did we get here? 

The fighting began last Friday morning on the southern frontline, in the area of Kibumba. The resumption of hostilities was not surprising, given that the peace talks in Kampala had fallen apart several days prior. The following day, the Congolese army began a simultaneous offensive on the M23's northern flank, as well, where the army had been massing troops and weapons for several months. Progress was quick––by Saturday, the army had taken control of Kibumba and on Sunday Kiwanja was under their control. By Sunday, the army advanced to Rumangabo, the M23's military base, and Rutshuru, the territorial capital. Today, they took back Bunagana on the Ugandan border, where the M23's political leaders had been staying. After heavy bombardment, Congolese troops were already reported to have scaled the Mbuzi hill and were trying to close in on Runyoni and Tshanzu. 

Africa Defence Review has a summary of the fighting, with a helpful map:

The fighting was heaviest around Kibumba, where the M23 put up a fight and both sides lost troops. Elsewhere, there seems to have been little resistance by the thinly-stretched M23––reports put their total fighting force between 800-1,500 troops. By Tuesday, there were rumors that their military commanders had fled to neighboring Uganda or Rwanda, although none of these could be verified.

But why did this round of fighting turn out so differently than previous ones? How could the Congolese army, usually better known for its indiscipline and racketeering than its military prowess, knock the M23 out so quickly?

Three factors were key, but which was paramount is different to discern for now. There is no doubt that the FARDC is performing much better now than in 2012. Its command structure has been changed and streamlined, beginning with the appointment of General Lucien Bahuma as regional commander in June 2012, and of General François Olenga as land forces commander in December 2012. These commanders have paid more attention to making sure logistics were in place and salaries paid on time, boosting soldiers' morale and enabling the newly-trained commando battalions to do their job. Then, in January 2013, over a hundred officers––many of them from the Kivus––were invited to Kinshasa under the pretext of a seminar on army reform (they are mostly still in Kinshasa today). This simplified the military hierarchy in North Kivu, which had become clogged up with competing chains of command, a coterie of high-ranking officers embezzling funds and issuing contradictory orders. 

The second factor was the United Nations. Observers on the front lines reported that the Congolese soldiers were being issued military rations by the UN, and that UN officers were jointly planning operations with the Congolese army. UN attack helicopters have been providing support, although the bulk of the fighting has been carried out by the FARDC. 

But it may be the third factor that was the determining one––the absence of support from Rwanda. According to several reports from the frontlines, despite indications of some cross-border support in the Kibumba area, the M23 was largely left to its own devices. "The Rwandans just wouldn't pick up their phone calls," one source close to the M23 leadership told me. This is a drastic change from August, when many sources––the UN, Human Rights Watch, and foreign diplomats––all reported hefty support coming across the border. The fact that the M23 did not put up much of a fight in Kiwanja and Rumangabo was another indication that they knew they stood no chance against the superior firepower of the UN and the FARDC. According to several diplomats, the US Secretary of State John Kerry as well as a senior British diplomat called President Paul Kagame last Friday to impress how important it was for Rwanda to sit this out. While similar pressure has been applied before––President Obama called his Rwandan counterpart with a similar message last December––this time it may have just been the final straw for the Rwandan leaders. 

The coming days will be interesting. If the M23 is defeated, the Rwandan, and possibly the Ugandan governments will have to decide whether they will arrest the fleeing leaders or give them amnesty. The Congolese army will be under scrutiny to see how they manage their victory––any revenge attacks or targeting of suspected M23 collaborators could spoil the mood, and many will wait to see if they proceed to target the FDLR as promised. Finally, the impact of a victory on the larger peace process in the region would be powerful. President Kabila, who signed the Framework Agreement last February largely due to pressure from the M23, could shake off some of the pressure on him to carry out national reforms and would be buoyed by the popularity such a victory would certainly bring. 

For the moment, however, we should wait to see what the coming days bring.

There was a typo in the original post. It is the FARDC that is doing the bulk of the fighting.


H Stewart said...

" If the M23 is defeated, the Rwandan, and possibly the Ugandan governments will have to decide whether they will arrest the fleeing leaders or give them amnesty."

It is interesting that New Vision ( Uganda ) was reporting last night the surrender of Bisiimwa to Ugandan Security a story that has been taken down and replaced with a report that he is in Uganda attending the peace talks and that a helicopter had been sent to meet him at the border, one that is curiously absent in the picture accompanying the report. I posted the report last night to Facebook along with the comment that M7 might be weighing his options. It would seem he has.

Iain Stewart shared a link.
19 hours ago

M23 rebel leader surrenders to Ugandan security
Congolese M23 rebel leader Bertrand Bisiimwa has surrendered to Ugandan security.

dimandja said...

"This would be historic––it would be the first time the Congolese government had defeated a major rebellion, and it would be the first time since 1996 that an armed group allied to Rwanda is not present in the eastern Congo."

Actually, no, this statement is wrong on two counts.

1. The Congolese army has put down much bigger rebellions in the past. Remember the Simbas? Or even the mercenaries of Bob Denard, Jean Schramme & Co? Secessions of Katanga and Kasai? In fact, it can be argued that the only time the Congolese army had been defeated was when Kabila overthrew Mobutu. And the Rwanda army which helped Kabila has occupied Congo ever since.

2. M23 is by no means the only group allied to Rwanda still operating in Congo. There are dozens of those. M23 only happens to be the most highly visible today. Kagame and his cronies will sacrifice one group, but then prop up the next one from the many DRC-based warring factions they already support or that they can easily co-opt. Many Mai-Mai groups were (or are) openly allied with Rwanda. Even rival factions of FDLR have been known to cooperate with Rwanda.

In any case, these negative forces split and merge so often that their agendas and alliances are hard to follow.

nathanielpowell said...

Re: Dimandja's comments.

While many armed groups/uprisings have been defeated in Congo, these have almost always occurred with substantial foreign assistance:

The Katangan and Kasai secessions were put down with (mostly) foreign troops. The Simba revolt(s) was ended through a combination of factionalism within the rebellion(s), foreign mercenaries, and a fortuitous Belgian jump on Stanleyville. The 1966 Katangan Gendarme revolt in Stanleyville was put down with mercenaries. The 1977 and 1978 Katangan Gendarme invasions of Shaba almost overthrew Mobutu, and were only defeated by Moroccan forces in 1977, with French support, and by French forces in 1978. It's true that in the 1970s and 1980s there were a number of very small village or community-level uprisings that ended in massacres, but I'd hardly consider that an indication of army effectiveness.
The AFDL overthrew Mobutu (obviously with foreign support), but was unable to win the following war, which only "ended" after bloody stalemate and international pressure. Obviously the FARDC has not been able to subdue the Kivus. Their victory (however final or provisional it may be) over M23 would likely not have happened without substantial foreign support in the form of the FIB.

On that score, the Congolese army has been "defeated" on numerous occasions, most recently being last year of course. In fact, the only example I can think of where the Congolese army defeated an enemy with its own resources was in 1967 versus the mercenary uprising (and even that is pushing it a bit).

In my mind, this history says quite a bit about the nature of the post-colonial Congolese state, its unhealthy relationship to various iterations of the "international community," and suggests the relevance of Clausewitz old dictum, "In war, the result is never final."

r0bster said...

Anybody know if it is possible to travel in the East now? Was thinking of going from Bunia down to Bukavu

Bayeke said...

Un vrai faux débat.
Armies win wars with contributions of some kinds from their allies.

dimandja said...


Thanks for your comments. Although you are correct to say that the Congolese army has used mercenaries and allies to win their wars, this is no different than, say, the US army never winning a war without the use of the same.

I agree with Bayeke, there's hardly any army in recent memory that won a war without the use of mercenaries and allies. And that includes the mighty army of the USA. It doesn't mean that US couldn't win a war all alone, but we'll never know, would we?

Also, last year, the Congolese army performed poorly against M23, Rwanda and Uganda. This year, they took back the lost ground. Yes, the FIB helped, but the Congolese reorganized and fought the bulk of the war. Give them credit for that. The same way you would give credit to the allies in WW2.

congo man said...

For over a decade now the supposed mighty US army and their NETO allies have been bugged down in Afghanistan unable to defeat the Taliban or secure any territory outside of KABUL. In fact KABUL still partially controled by the talibans .I don't care what cynics say. This offensive was 98% conducted by the FARFC. Kabila knew the weakness of the RDF wich is nothing but a tribal militia , but he underestimated the damege that those integrations (infiltration) with CNDP, RCD... (RDF spies) did to the FRDC both in terms of military intelligence being transferred to the enemy and troops moral being completely previous offensives our soldiers knew that many of their commanders where working for the enemy and many of their supposed comrades where just enemy combatants in disguise. Now with all those spies gone or contained , the disciplined , better trained and equipped FARDC are ready to confront the RDF at any time .The message to KAGAME and his supporters is BRING IT ON.

congo man said...

10/30/2013 shall marks a very important date in the Congo and like June 30th.this date shall be selebrated as a holiday. 10/30/2013 (victory day) marks the end to the 2 decades failed attempt to BALKANIZE the DRC and the birth of the new Congo.a African giant that together with SOUTH AFRICA and NIGERIA is going to lead The African Renaissance. This date also marks the end to PAUL KAGAME's military adventures in the Region and also a star of a new chapter in the region's history. This date also marks the day when Congolese people of all ethnic groups(HUNDE , NANDE, TUTSIS, HUTUS, LEGA...) came together in proving wrong PAUL KAGAME his backers and all those who for the last 2 decades spread lies by portraying what was a foreign and barbaric military invasion as a civil war or ethnic uprising. For 2 decades PAUL KAGAME and his various terrorist groups terrorized those communities (killed, raped , displaced and destroyed millions of people)but portrayed themselves as protectors of those same victims of their Barbaric crimes. This time all those communities came together from RUCHURU, MASISI, MUTAHO, KIBATI, GOMA, RUMANGABO, BUNAGANA...And from all ethnic groups (TUTSIS, NYANGA, NYABWISHA,NANDE, HUNDE, HUTUS...) all welcomed the FARDC as their true hiroes and liberators, and protectors and rejected PAUL KAGAME and his terrorists. We all withessed this historic day where the attempt foreign BALKANIZATION of the DRC was put to rest.

Anonymous said...

it speaks volumes about the level of collective trauma of years of colonialism, dictatorship, rebellions, and invasions that so many congolese sincerely believe their is some expressed policy out there to “balkanize” (whatever the hell that is) their country.

and mind you i’m a neurotic new york jew who lost family in buchenwald and the yom kippur war in 73’ so i know a little something about being part of a community with a collective sense of grievance. yet, in spite of nearly 2,000 years of state-sanctioned violence, intimidation, pogroms and an industrial scale attempt at wholesale extermination jews have NEVER constructed an identity around our oppression. and, unlike the congolese, israel is SURROUNDED by enemies who have ACTIVELY sought to invade, break up, push out to the sea our homeland and who have financially supported groups bent on doing all this by proxy (PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood, etc).

it is just so baffling to read some of the comments here. as if beating some rag tag militia somehow validates congolese national pride and vigor.

really? i mean, fucking really? the sum and total of what is possible from the congolese is beating rwanda and/or its “proxies” on the battlefield? that’s it????!!

wow. just…

anyway, thank you, mssr stearns, for an objective and reasonable overview of the events of late. i have three questions:

- i’m still concerned about refugees, any news about the effort to resettle folks and funding?

- in your view, why did rwanda blink? fib? south africa?

- kinshasa is clearly committed to victory on the battlefield but do you have any clear indications they are committed to real SSR? any indication they see the connection between a strong state and army? any at all?



congo man said...

It looks like PAUL KAGAME's entire clan is now relocating to New York and are now starting to take the Jewish identify. Is that going to save his now weakened tyrannical dictatorship? I don't think so.

dimandja said...
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congo man said...

It looks like our Jewish friend from New York , mr Levin .has not gotten any sleep for the last 5 nights. The m23 nightmares that he's having are now giving him anger problems.

Unknown said...

Strange, is it not Congoman?

In the last thread at OCTOBER 28, 2013 AT 4:53 PM
this idiot of Levin-le-jew (Jose) said he was Congolese (he wrote: we silent congolese patriots
), now he is a jew concerned about the return of Tutsi “refugees”. What a mutant?

Hence the tragedy with these people. One day they are Congolese, the next they are Rwandan, then Congolese again!

So it is up to Congolese and DRCgov now. No more niceties! Since Kagame tried and failed his “social engineering” by transplanting his “surplus” into Rutshuru and Masisi. “Reverse social engineering” of our own is needed (details offline). Further, DRCgov should engage in what I would call “geopolitical engineering” to sever link to toxic Kagame-Rwanda completely: put drones up in the skies, push DRC’s exit points to EastAfrica farther from Rwanda, and above all shut the bloody Congo-Rwanda border and erect an impenetrable fence along it.

That is the only guaranty for peace and prosperity for our people as long as Kagame junta is in power! Follow Angola and Tanzania no-nonsense approach, if they didn’t act promptly, there was going to be M23 rebellion made in Tanzania!


congo man said...

I can't agree with you more. But I think regime change in Kigali will be easier and quicker than anything else. Over 85% I repeat it again 85% of RWANDESE want this tyrannical ruthless dictatorial regime gone. If PAUL KAGAME does not change his way .The only remaining option is to confront and destroy his tribal militia inside Rwanda. a friendly regime is now what is needed if we want to bring lasting peace and prosperity to all our people. It's now time for the people of Rwanda to be liberated from this tyrannical dictatorship.

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Dark Eldar said...

Now that M23 is history, we shall see what other excuses you Congolese come up with to under-develop yourselves!!! I bet 6 months from now we shall still be on this forum entertaining this obsession with Kagame & Rwanda being the cause of all Congolese problems!!

Meanwhile - news of the death of M23 may be greatly exaggerated! I remember another rebel outfit that was pushed into the Virunga mountains in ignoble defeat back in 1990 - having lost almost 1/4 of their command! We all know what eventually happened.

@Messrs Congo man & MuanaCongo - & all the rest of the Anti-Tusti coallition, don't forget how we flew 600 boys to Kitona in the summer of '98 & took the Inga Dam! Had it not been for Angolan armor, we would still be sitting in Kinshasa :)

congo man said...

@dark Eldar
Yes I remember .we Congolese still remember what happened in the late nineties. That's the reason why our brave man and woman of the FARDC are determined to teach PAUL KAGAME'S last major terrorist movement(the notorious M23/RDF terrorists) a lesson that we will never ever again alow PAUL KAGAME to repeat his adventures or export terror outside of RWANDA. never ever again .that was 1998 this is 2013.never ever again.

congo man said...

The ticking time bomb that's Rwanda is now ticking very fast . it's just a matter of time before it explodes. Big change is coming soon.

Unknown said...


When this nightmare ends hopefully, Congolese people will always be grateful to YOU for your leadership. Since your assumption of office you made Syria and Congo priorities at UNSC . Just as we will be as grateful to a great American Roger Meece, Mr Martin Kobler “The Kaiser” or le gaulois UN Herve Ladsous for UNSC resolution 2098.

But now int’l Kagame backers are up in arms, bitter, very bitter at the prospect of M23 disappearing. They are now exerting undue pressure on DRCgov, FARDC and MONUSCO to stop fighting M23

Sir, as an American war Hero, you know more than I would that wars always end with talks. But this one is not over yet. M23 criminals are still raping, killing, terrorizing civilians from the hills near Bunagana. Like in Afganistan or Mali, let FARDC assisted by FIB finish the job then the rest can follow. Let the perpetrators of genocide of non-Tutsi populations dumped in mass graves from Kibumba to Bunagana face JUSTICE please.

Sir, Congolese people in the Kivus are humans too, JUSTICE, JUSTICE, JUSTICE!

@ Dark Eldar

Yes I remember how your RDF 600 troops including Makenga and led by Kabarebe BOMBED civilian infrastructure INGA. Thousands of babies and mothers died in Matadi, Kin and L’shi. Be proud of that war crime!

But importantly, know that I and most Congolese have nothing at all against Tutsi people. But we want to “eat alive” Kagame , Kabarebe and all those who have brought so much suffering to our people. Have you and your kind ever contemplated the alternative to Kagamist policies? Which is peace and prosperity for all communities in the Great Lakes region.

I repeat, self-deception will “finish” you. You are small yet you think you are big. You live of the whole world “handouts” yet you claim to be an economic powerhouse. But I think from now on you will stop thinking that you own war exclusively, or that you are bulletproof! I think final tears are still ahead for you!


congo man said...

@Dark Elder
Stop fooling yourself my friend. It was never about the T or the H (tustsi or hutus)it was all about the C , G ... (coltan, cassiterite, Gold...) that's all that Bil Clinton , Tony Blair and all those who helped fuel this carnage cared about in 1994, 1998 and 2013. They only used you to loot for them but stupid you did not plan about your future or future of your children and generations to come. Among the over 500 ethnic groups that makes up our region's population there's no special one and no group shall never ever again ask for special treatment. Even Those 2 bloody recists who helped start and fueled this carnage(BILL CLINTON and TONY BLAIR ) new that .They know we're all Africans and they did not care about how many of us died or continue to die. all they care about is what is beneath the KIVU's ground (GOLD, COLTAN, CASSITERITE etc.) and how to get their bloody hands on it. Now that we've secured our territory and kick PAUL KAGAME's thieves and terrorists out.all those bloody recists who fooled you are going to turn their backs on you and one after the other are going to walk away from stupid you. You had 2 decades to think but stupid you couldn't think. Now it's time for you to start thinking of how to repair all the damages that you have caused and plan about a better future like your Burundian neighbors and brothers. That's the only choice for you.if not you are doomed.

dimandja said...

So, Jason Stearns, according to you, none of the following armed groups in Congo have absolutetly nothing to do with Rwanda and Uganda murderous involvement in DR Congo?

Raïa Mutomboki, Forces de défense congolaise (FDC-Luanda)
Nduma défense du Congo (NDC)
Force œcuménique pour la libération du Congo (FOLC)
Mouvement congolais pour le changement (MCC)
Alliance pour la libération de l’Est du Congo (ALEC)
Forces de résistance patriotiques en Ituri (FRPI)
Coalition des groupes armés de l’Ituri (COGAI)
Mouvement de résistance populaire du Congo (MRPC)

Unknown said...


To Congo man and Mwanacongo,

Your patriotism is vibrant, and, quite frankly, provocative! By and large, Congo needs a new way of collective thinking instead of attacking one another from abroad (mostly Europe). It is time to regain national pride, a sense of security, and, ultimately, a long lasting peace. All Congolese have the duty to be vigilant by calling out those "double faces" who claim to be Congolese by day and Rwandans at night. The FARDC’svictory, let no one tell you it wasn't, over Rwandan Army allies is a symbol of regained sovereignty that all Congolese MUST protect.

Poor Dark Eldar (the lone arrogant Tutsi) who still thinks that 2 decades of war and misery haven't taught Congolese any lesson. I tell you what Dark (Molili, usiku, obscurite...), your dark days have come to an end. You better start managing you house (Rwanda) before its former occupiers (Hutu) come back from the fields (domination). Seriously, just organize transparent elections and let the world see the outcome. You know that you can't, isn't?

And to you the New Yorker Jew, JUST STOP IT. Ever, never compare the despicable events in 1994 to Nazi's Holocaust. You comparison of the Jewish State Israel to Rwanda lacks contextual meaning. Israel is surrounded by states and factions that loudly have declared that they want to wipe it out. As a matter of survival, Israel has the right to defend it-self against any aggression including preemptive precautions to prevent any missile that could be directed to it soil. As of Rwanda, NO country has alleged to strike Rwanda. On contrary, Rwanda is the largest country that exports war in a neighboring country, Congo by directly or indirectly taking part of killing Congolese. Israel doesn’t sponsor militias in neighboring countries to justify the holocaust that happened to them in Europe. Never. By the way, a vigorous and scholarly debate should be allowed to take place to find out what happened to almost a million people including Tutsis and Hutus alike, so that the world can get a sense of how to prevent such atrocity from happening anywhere on the planet in lieu of labeling whoever question the outcome of 1994 (scholars, human rights activists, and all people of good intentions) as genocide deniers. After the Numberg trials, derived from the WW2, the world learned lessons of how to prevent Holocaust, but 2 decades later, we still don’t understand what happened in Rwanda in 1994. The Arusha Tribunal is inadequate mostly because Rwanda refuses to effectively collaborate with it. It about time, whether you like it or not, that the truth that is coming by stairs arrives to encounter lies that preceded by elevator.

My message to KAGAME is simple: Sir, leave Congo alone and mind your businesses.

Dark Eldar said...

One of the unfortunate causes of Congo's problems is their reliance on other people to liberate them or fight their wars!! You invited Kagame & Kabarebe to liberate you from Mobutu! Even the little freedom you enjoy now is the sacrifice of Rwandese blood! You appointed Kabarebe as your Army Commander - Who on earth appoints a foreigner to lead their army?

But all that aside- lets make a prediction right now! Exactly one year from now - there will be no peace in the Kivus & Kabila will no longer be in power. That is unless the Congolese stop blaming everybody else for their problems & sit down on the round-table as Congolese!! Blair, Clinton, Kagame, my foot...why can't you take charge of your own destiny?? You think we - your neighbours - are out to exploit your minerals? For heaven's sake, we can't exploit our own natural resources - how are we going to exploit someone else's?? Man up & stop celebrating because South Africans & Tanzanians, & Equadorians have helped you overpower a ragtag militia!

Unknown said...

@ Dark Molili,
You are wasting your time on giving Congolese lessons. You are done. Completely! Yet, you continue to be arrogant! Anyway, as they say in Kiswahili: "Sikiyo la kufa halisikii mbu" (a dying ear does not hear a mosquito). You and your clan are in denial of Congolese awakening. We are moving FORWARD. Bye miserable neighbor.

dimandja said...

@Dark Idiot

For a Rwandan, you sure have a pathological obsession with Congo and Congolese.

You need that condition looked at.

dimandja said...

@Dark Thingy

The FARDC have ruined the little business arrangement of M23, and all M23 foreign leaders have fled back to their countries of Rwanda and Uganda with whatever loot they could carry, leaving behind the poor children who fought and died for them. Very classy.

I hope you tag along with Makenga, Nkunda, Bisimwa, and find useful employment as their gardener or something in Rwanda. Bu-by Dark! Don't come back to Congo.

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We will need to build a temporary bridge in the Pacific Island “Step It Up” method. A floating bridge of plank, barrel, binding and ballist will suffice cheaply and quickly. The location due to geographical necessity is the southern tip of Idjwi and the northern most point on the Rwanda side of the border.
With the implementation of the Life bridge we could realistically double the population of Idjwi, currently about 200,000 inhabitants. We will need to build structures and utilize trailors. Big Houses where we can conduct skools and all manner of activity.
The cost is estimated between 1 to 5 hundred thousand U.S. and I estimate that we will need ten times this for initial provisions. We will need to buy the Good seed. If soil is deficient we will have to enhance it with top soil and fertilizer. There are quite a few pineapple plantations already so some of the soil has to at least be good for some crops.

needtogetdrunk said...

In order to get civilians (including refugees) out of harm’s way We need to build a Life bridge to Isle Idjwi. It will serve as a strategic funnel to advert those at risk from the looming conflict.
We will need to build a temporary bridge in the Pacific Island “Step It Up” method. A floating bridge of plank, barrel, binding and ballist will suffice cheaply and quickly. The location due to geographical necessity is the southern tip of Idjwi and the northern most point on the Rwanda side of the border.
With the implementation of the Life bridge we could realistically double the population of Idjwi, currently about 200,000 inhabitants. We will need to build structures and utilize trailors. Big Houses where we can conduct skools and all manner of activity.
The cost is estimated between 1 to 5 hundred thousand U.S. and I estimate that we will need ten times this for initial provisions. We will need to buy the Good seed. If soil is deficient we will have to enhance it with top soil and fertilizer. There are quite a few pineapple plantations already so some of the soil has to at least be good for some crops.

Unknown said...

You are really drunk! What are you talking about? Is this another floodgate to import Rwandan-Tutsi in Congo? Go away, idiot. As they say, "Fool me once, shame on you, but fool me twice shame on me". We can't be fooled twice. Never!

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Bayeke said...

Watch out for a false flag operation quite soon from Kagame: A terror attack in Rwanda by fake FDLR.

dimandja said...

Shouldn't Rwanda be holding peace talks with the FDLR just about now?

What's Kagame thinking? That DR Congo should hold peace talks with the FDLR on his behalf?

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I never thought I would be one of those people who screams "let them all leave and never comeback to our country!" and I don't want to be one of those people. I grew up with "Rwandan" neighbours, I put Rwandan in quotes because to us they were Rwandans as I am Luba/Musakata is more of an ethnicity than a nationality. We were friends, we were close, we played together, they babysat me... I feel torn because I always go by peaceful & logical solutions but what will we do now? Should all Rwandans leave our country? Rwanda is an overpopulated country and these wars has helped them get rid of a significant population and their (bigger) neighbouring countries have taken them in as refugees, sometimes granting them nationality. Our country is immense, we have enough for everyone in there but I'm afraid the wound is too deep, millions dead, I honestly wouldn't want to see a single one of them in the Congo anymore, no matter the innocent intention. How does everybody else feel about this? I'm just so torn... said...

last year of course. In fact, the only example I can think of where the Congolese army defeated an enemy with its own resources was in 1967 versus the mercenary uprising (and even that is pushing it a bit price action

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i want to share my life experience to every body on, i was in a serious relationship with Charlie, i love him so much we have dated for almost 6 years now.until He meant another girl called Debbie, He told me that He was no longer interested in our RELATIONSHIP, i was so confuse i don`t know what to do. so i told my friend about what my LOVER has done to me so, She directed me to a spell caster called Dr.PAYBACK, so i contacted Him and i explain every of the experiences to Him, He told me that my problem will be solved within 48hrs if, i believe i said OK. So, Dr. PAYBACK, cast a spell for me and after two days my love came back to me begging me on his knees on the ground asking me to forgive him.Am so happy now. so that why i decided to share my experience with every body that have such problem you can contact his email via email,,





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Unknown said...

I have never believed in spells not untill i found my self loosing my ex boyfriend months to our wedding when all of a sudden he called and told me he was no longer interested in our relationship because her mother told him i was not good enough for him.My life was empty without him,i have no choice than to search online and i found so many spell casters but because of what a friend told me about how DR.LOVESPELL have helped so many people i just don't have a choice that to give him a try,so i contacted him and explain my situation to him.He helped me cast a spell and it was a miracle my boyfriend came back after 3 days and told me he was sorry that he will never leave me and ready to spend the rest of his life with me.Please if you have any problem with you relationship contact DR.LOVESPELL now before it too late.(

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Am Renee from Portland, I'm simply AMAZED at the results of the custom spell performed for me by His Majesty. Everything is going so well and EXACTLY how he said it would. what amazed me the most is that it took few hours to fully progress, it was so worth it because things are just about at perfection! How he took my situation and completely turned it around to give me exactly what I wanted is beyond me, but something I will never question and just be completely grateful for coming across you. Bless you for helping so many people get what their heart desires. You truly gifted! Renee. you can also be a testimony get in touch with His Majesty on now.and you will be amazed you did make the right choice.

Unknown said...

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Problem in marriage,
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Unknown said...

Stephen is my name, i am just so happy and don't know What more i can say in this life? how will i thank Lord Zilialia enough for the good job which he just did for me.i have been searching for long a real spell caster, for me to get who will help me get back my wife back but i have been scammed so many times by a lot of people who claim they are spell casters and are not, so i was tired of searching then one morning i visited a neighbor and she introduced me to this man Lord Zilialia and i contacted him and he make a spell for me in the night and after the spell he tells me what to do and i did it and immediately the thing was done he gave me assurance that my wife will start looking for me and pleading for me to accept her back and i was kind of not sure and what make me amaze he said just 2 days after that is when she will come and as i am talking to you people now my wife came back to me exactly the 2nd day as he said and now i am very happy. LORD ZILIALIA IS REAL!!!! you can contact Lord Zilialia through this email,

maria nelson said...

Hello i am MISS MARIA NELSON from UNITED STATE OF AMERICA ,I am here to shares my testimony to the entire world on how i got my husband back,after being in relationship with my husband for nine years,he broke up with me,I was going crazy mad and confuse when my husband left me for another girl last month,I did everything possible to bring him back but all was in vain,I wanted him back so much because of the love I have for him, I begged him with everything, I made promises but he refused.But when i meet a friend who suggested that I should rather contact PROPHET alaja a spell caster that could help me cast a spell to bring him back but I am the type that never believed in spell, I had no choice than to try it,I narrated my problem to PROPHET alaja about how my ex love left me and also how i needed to get a job in a very big company.He only said to me that i have come to the right place were i will be getting my heart desire without any side effect,He told me what i need to do,After it was been done,In the next 2 days,My love came back home saying sorry for living me that was how we started living together happily again. and also in the next one week after my lovely husband was back home pleading for forgiveness,I was called for interview in my desired company were i needed to work as the managing director,I am so happy and overwhelmed I have made promise that anybody I know that have a relationship problem, I would be of help to such person by referring him or her to the only real and powerful spell caster who helped me with my own problem and who is different from all the fake ones out there. Anybody could need the help of the spell caster Contact him direct on: and get your problems solve like me.

ANSWERS said...


Hello and blessed are you who found me. My name is DR SHAKES SPEAR, and am here to help you change and transform your life in the most positive way possible. I use the power of white, black craft and Wicca and voodoo spell casting to help people just like you they get the love they want and the money they deserve.

My love spell offer amazing and quick results. Do you want to find your soulmate? Do you want to reunite with a past lover and make him or her love you again? Do you need to bind a troublemaker from causing problems in your relationship? With my spell casting service, I can cast a love spell on your behalf that will help all of your wishes and dreams come true. I also do other custom spells, such as money spells, job spells, friendship spells, and good luck spells.

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Unknown said...

Am Barr Aynallem Dabebe,, My life is back!!! After 8 years of marriage, my Husband left me and left me. I felt like my life was about to end, and was falling apart. I contacted high priest ozigididon the Great, and after I explained you my problem. In just 60 minutes, my wife came back to me and show me much love and apologize for all the pain she have bring to the family. We solved our issues, and we are even happier than before. high priest ozigididon you are the best spell caster i really appreciate the love spell you casted for me to get the woman back to my life i will keep sharing more testimonies to people about your good work Thank you once again high priest ozigididon. Incase you are in any problem you can contact this high priest ozigididon for help he is always there in his temple to listen and help you solve your problem Contact Email is: CONTACT HIM TODAY VIA THIS EMAIL ADDRESS: AS HIS POWERS ARE SO STRONG AND VERY EFFECTIVE AND HAS NO BAD EFFECT INSTEAD IT HAVE A VERY GOOD RESULT AFTER CASTING THE SPELL. Contact him now and thank me later.

Anonymous said...


I want to testify of what a spell caster did for me and my hubby.we have been married since 2007 without a sign of pregnancy or conceiving.I went off birth control then and did not have a gyro gave me progesterone to jump-start a period and it did.,but i did not have another one.we did another round of progesterone followed by 100mg clomid for 5 months,we followed all doctors instructions but all to no avail.I have been buying ovulation kits pregnancy test AND i finally got 3 test when i was ovulating! So ever since that we been trying for years now! Well i was very confused because i keep taking ept test AND they all keep turning out to b negative! I really want a baby girl while my hubby want a baby boy LOLL! I think maybe we are just trying to hard, What i can tell you is that its been so many years now and i still yet do not have my period??nobody to help because every body around us was already at the verge of losing their faith on were to run to until one faithful day i was reading a magazine and i stumble on a page were i found topic or a head line {A SPELL CASTER} who can heal someone from HIV AND AIDS,bring back your EX,enlarge your BREAST,help you win a VISA LOTTERY,losing your WEIGHT and even get six PACKS AND flatten your BELLY,I gave him a try and before i could no it PROPHET Oodlia rescue me from my problem by casting a spell for me and told me to go and make love with my hubby,then nine months after the spell and making love with my husband i delivered a twins A BOY AND A GIRL.This spell caster name is PROPHET Oodlia so many people have witness his wonderful work..He is nice, contact him on if you are in any predicament•Thanks so very much!!

Vivian Alex said...

I ordered a spell on a Friday night and on Monday the place I applied for a job called for me to come by their office. They gave me the job I applied for and made me an offer of more per hour than I have ever made in my life! I am so happy! The government jobs sometimes are a slow process. You somehow managed to speed up that process, and I start in just a few days! dr .obasi i will be forever grateful thank ones again ok you can call on him for help on his email address

Unknown said...



hello to the every one on this forum ; am here to share my experience with dr oriomon about what he just did for me last week , for helping to reunited with my ex lover Mavis who broke up with me after 2 years of relationship because of his families did not like our relationship . but after Dr oriomon of has done his wonderful work for me i was so shock when i saw Mavis calls on phone asking me to come back to him that him is ready to stay with me and beg his families to love our relationship and he actually did so and with a support from DR ORIOMON his parents that never wanted to see both of us promise to sponsor our wedding by December as we are planing now . so with this great work done for me by DR oriomon i promise not to stop telling others about his good work in my life , so if any one also need his help here i will advice you contact him to via ( bye



Unknown said...

At last my happiness has been restored by a Man named Dr ABULU ,, my name’s are miss KIRSTEN I want every one on this site or forum to join me thank this DR ABULU for what he just did for me and my kids. my story goes like this I was married to my husband for 5 years we were living happily together for this years and not until he traveled to Italy for a business trip where he met this prostitute who be witched he to hate me and the kids and love her only so when my husband came back from the trip he said he does not want to see me and my kids again so he drove us out of the house and he was now going to Italy for to see that other woman. so I and my kids were now so frustrated and I was just staying with my mum and I was not be treating good because my mama got married to another man when my after my daddy death so the man she got married to was not treating I and my kids well so I was so confuse and I was searching for a way to get my husband back to me and my kids so one day as I was browsing on my computer I saw a testimony about this MAN DR ABULU of shared on the internet by a lady and it impress me too so I also think of give it a try at first a was scared by when I think of what me and my kids are passing through so I contact him and he told me to stay calm for just two days that my husband shall be restored to me and to my best surprise I received a call from my husband on the second day asking after the kids and I called Dr Abulu and he said your problems are solved my child so this was how I get my family back after a long stress of brake up by an evil lady so with all this help from DR ABULU of I want you all on this forum to join me to say a huge thanks to DR ABULU and I will also advice for any one in such or similar problems or any kind of problems should also contact him for help.

Miss Joyce said...

My ex-boy dumped me 4 months ago after I accused him of seeing another woman and insulting him.I want him back in my life but he refused to have any contact with me. he changed his line and email address. I was so confuse and don't know what to do. So I reach to the internet for help and I saw a testimonies of how this powerful spell caster help them to get their ex back. So I contact the spell caster whose name is Dr Ekpiku and explain my problem to him and he cast a spell for me and assure me of 2days that my ex will return to me, and to my greatest surprise the Second day my ex came knocking at my door and i immediately pleaded and ask him to forgive me. I am so happy that my love is back again and not only that,i was awarded a contract of 5 Million Pounds for 4 years. Once again thank you Dr Ekpiku,you are truly talented and gifted. Email: {}. He is the only answer. He can be of great help and I will not stop publishing his good work because people are still talking about him on the Internet and Radio Stations

Unknown said...

Hello my good friends please do not see this strange cause it my life story about my healing, i was having HIV for good 6yrs. Things were not working fine for me due to my health status i know longer have friends know lover it even takes time before my family co-operate with me due to this i tried all possible means i can to get this devilish sickness out of my body i went to hospitals hierarchies and other heath organization but all remains the same still yet i never gave up cos i was not born with this illness so i decided to take it over to the internet to see if i could get remedy, on my search i saw a testimony of a woman, she said she was also having a terrible sickness for over 3yrs but now she is healed i was surprise at first when i saw her test so she wrote a name dr EHIAGHE and also gave his email id so i mailed them which is ( i told them about my problem and after the processes he told me that am healed but i never believed he told me to go and confirm it from the hospital were i have been taking treatment still i never believed also although he gave me evidence that the sickness was gone.
Finally i decided to go for check up and to my surprise my doctor said the sickness was know longer there with thought of joy i started shearing tears.
My friends today am now married bless with 2kids, so if you have any sickness such as cancer, hiv,bring your ex back, kindly email ( sir i will forever remain in you debt.
Thank you sir am grateful.

Richee said...

My Name is Emil.I will love to share my testimony to all the people in the forum cos i never thought i will have my girlfriend back and she means so much to me..The girl i want to get marry to left me 4 weeks to our wedding for another man..,When i called her she never picked my calls,She deleted me on her facebook and she changed her facebook status from married to Single...when i went to her to her place of work she told her boss she never want to see me..I lost my job as a result of this cos i cant get myself anymore,my life was upside down and everything did not go smooth with my life...I tried all i could do to have her back to all did not work out until i met a Man when i Travel to Africa to execute some business have been developing some years back..I told him my problem and all have passed through in getting her back and how i lost my job...he told me he gonna help me...i don't believe that in the first place.but he swore he will help me out and he told me the reason why my girlfriend left me and also told me some hidden secrets.i was amazed when i heard that from him..he said he will cast a spell for me and i will see the results in the next couple of days..then i travel back to Us the following day and i called him when i got home and he said he's busy casting those spells and he has bought all the materials needed for the spells,he said am gonna see positive results in the next 2 days that is Thursday...My girlfriend called me at exactly 12:35pm on Thursday and apologies for all she had done ..she said,she never knew what she's doing and her sudden behavior was not intentional and she promised not to do that was like am dreaming when i heard that from her and when we ended the call,i called the man and told him my wife called and he said i haven't seen anything yet... he said i will also get my job back in 3 days time..and when its Sunday,they called me at my place of work that i should resume working on Monday and they gonna compensate me for the time limit have spent at home without working..My life is back into shape,i have my girlfriend back and we are happily married now with kids and i have my job back too.This man is really powerful..if we have up to 20 people like him in the world,the world would have been a better place..he has also helped many of my friends to solve many problems and they are all happy now..Am posting this to the forum for anybody that is interested in meeting the man for can mail him to I cant give out his number cos he told me he don't want to be disturbed by many people across the world..he said his email is okay and he' will replied to any emails asap..hope he helped u out too..good Again His Email Address Is:

Anonymous said...

I am so grateful to Dr.Kuvuki for bringing back my wife to me just within the period of 48 hours. I was living a life of a frustrated man till i came across Dr.Kuvuki contact details on the internet whom i then explained my situation to and he told me to calm down that he will handle everything, To be honest i never felt that things was going work out as fast as he did, but i was surprise when my wife called me and told me that she willing to come back to me as my wife. So what more can i say than to give thanks to Dr.Kuvuki and at the same time i should drop Dr.Kuvuki contact details which are via email: or call +2348158738315 for urgent assistance

Unknown said...

Hello to every one i want to testify of what a spell caster has done for me,i was in a relationship for two years happy with my partner few months to our wedding she left me and went after another man she never came back home again, i cry all day looking for help i have contacted so many spell caster but no result one day i was on the internet when i came across a testimony on how Dr ehiagwina helped some one to get back his lover so i gave a try and it work out for me am so happy to have my lover back to my self again thanks once again Dr ehiagwina for helping me to bring back my lover if you are passing through the same problem or any kind of situation and you think all hope is lost my dear is not. contact Dr ehiagwina on his email:

Monica Brown said...

My name is Ruth Moore,Am from UK,i never believe there will ever be a solution to my relationship problem with my lover. my lover called smith Moore threw me out of his house and brought in another lady who he now feels the only best for him. until one day i receive a phone call from a friend in the city that my man is going out on a date with another woman in town, i told her i am also surprise too, because since smith Moore has left me he hardly think nor call me. so after some few days my friend called Martha called me and told me that she has found a man that is very powerful, and he is a great herbalist from Africa, truly we all knows that Africans are blessed with so much herbal voodoo powers which they use to help much people, so he told me that the man name is prophet oyinbo , that she will forward his email address for me so that i can contact him for help, so truly she sent me prophet oyinbo email address and i contacted him that faithful day. he mailed me after a great while that my man will be back to me if only i believe on his work,so after 25hrs i receive a phone call from smith Moore, and he started begging that i should please forgive him against all he had done to me.. he begged me of breaking my heart and letting the other lady a new heart. he promise me never to let go. now i and Smith Moore are now planning to get married as soon as possible. we are brought back with the great powerful love spell and blinded with prophet oyinbo spell, we are happy and glad. so i thank you sir for the great help you offer to me, because i think today this might be the only ways and means i can ever thank you of your work.. i am glad. you can contact him for a love spell today at: thank you sir. Email him on:

Monica Brown said...

My family and i live in NY USA.It was after seven years i got to discover that my wife was unfaithful to me.I didn't know what was going on at first but as she got deep in the affair with her new lover, i felt that our marriage was on the rocks.I notice that she no longer light up when i touch her or kiss her in her neck and her chest cos she really liked it when i did that, she also usually get naked in front of me but when she started seeing that guy she stopped it.I remember asking her if i have done anything that makes her feel irritated when i am around her then she gives silly excuses that she has been feeling stressed up and that she need space for a while.I know when you are been asked for space its usually because there is something fishy is going on.I hired a private investigator to help find out what was going on.And in a week time he brought me prove that my wife that i have lived with for seven straight year is cheating on me with her high school lover.I had picture of her walking out a of a restaurant with him and many other photo of them kissing in public like she will never be caught by someone that knows she is my wife.I asked myself, even when we had a daughter together she could this to me.That same night i showed her the pictures that i got from my private investigator.She didn't look at it before saying, that she is seeing someone and she know that i just found out about it.Then she said that she is in love with him.At that moment, i didn't know if to kill myself or to kill her but the button line is that if i was going to kill anyone it was going to be me cos i was so much in love with her to even think of thinking to hurt her.As time when on she asked for a divorce and got it and even got custody of our daughter and i was all alone by myself.For a year i tried all i could to get her back with the help of my seven year old daughter.Even at that all effect was in vain, i used the help of her friend but turned out all bad.I know most people don't believe in spell casting but believe me this was my last option and the result i most say was impressive.And i know it difficult to believe but A SPELL CASTER Dr kovu really made my life much better cos he gave me my family back.He didn't ask me to pay for what he did for me all i was to do, was to provide the materials for the spell and believe that he had the power to help me.Like he said, he was going to do something that will make her reset her love and affection for me just as it has always been.My wife told me she woke up and realized that she should have never left me that i am all she needs.To make thing clear, her life with her high school lover was great before Dr kovu castled the spell they had no disagreement on anything.The guy said it himself that why she broke up with him is unexplainable.Only Dr.kovu can do such a thing contact him to solve your problem with his email: .CONTACT HIM NOW FOR SOLUTION TO ALL YOUR PROBLEMS. Dr. kovu,is also specialized in the following works and services as follow
1) If you want your ex back.
(2) if you always have bad dreams.
(3) You want to be promoted in your office.
(4) You want women/men to run after you.
(5) If you want a child.
(6) You want to be rich.
(7) You want to tie your husband/wife to be yours forever.
(8) If you need financial assistance.
(9) How you been scammed and you want to recover you lost money.
(10)if you want to stop your divorce.
(11)if you want to divorce your husband.
(12)if you want your wishes to be granted.
(13) Pregnancy spell to conceive baby
(14)Guarantee you win the troubling court cases & divorce no matter how what stage
(15)Stop your marriage or relationship from breaking apart.
once again the email address is
contact him immediately

Unknown said...


Hello dear friends

My name is Karina Vilva . I want to use this message to express my gratitude to a woman I have never seen but she has made my life a paradise.

Certainly there on the internet malicious people who are humble people looking to cheat but the great Queen Madu showed me that there are still some people who can be trusted .

In fact I lived 21 years of marriage never experienced the joy of motherhood, i had problems from my in-laws but my husband was very understanding. One day as i was going through the internet i saw some numbers of people given testimony about a particular woman on how she has helped them saved their marriage, got their ex back, cured diceases, i called my husband as showed him what i saw but he discouraged me by telling me that these people are all fake and i should ignor the testimonies. But i diceided to contact this Great woman through her mail box:
To my greatest supprise this woman was able help me and now i am a proud mother of two big boys and a girl who are in great shape. my husband is very proud of me and we are leaving more happily together.

Thanks to Queen Madu the Great Helper, i will continue to speak of your good work in my life. My husband also got promoted in his office and he became more proud of me. I must confess i am having a wonderful Family and To her I will be eternally grateful.

Dear parents, friends, brothers and sisters write the great QUEEN MADU on her mail box because she has probably the solution to all your problems . She told me i could also contact him for solutions on any other problems like

(1) want your ex back .
(2) You always have nightmares.
(3) To be promoted in your office
(4) Do you want to be rich.
(5) want to hold your husband / wife to be yours alone forever.
(6 ) need financial assistance.
7) Do you want to be in control of you marriage
8) Want you be attracted to people
9) Cure for any disease.

Contact QUEEN MADU today and you will be glad you did. Email:

Anonymous said...



thanks to the great man who help me with my marriage problem i never believe in spell on internet till i met this great man the great spell caster the great DR DONKBABA he was the man i saw his email and i contacted him for help and what he told me was all will be over within 3days i was so surprise on that word till after he told me what to do and i did it after 48hours i saw my husband in my office on his knees begging for my forgiveness and i did because i love him very much that is how i got my lover back we are now together i trust and believe DR DONKBABA any one who have any problem you should contact him on his email DONKBABA@GMAIL.COM HE WILL HELP YOU SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM

joy said...

My names Laura Zamora, I am from florida usa am here to give my testimony about a doctor who help me in my life. I was infected with HIV virus in the year of 2010,i went to many hospitals, churches for cure but there was no solution out, so I was thinking how can I get a solution out so that i cannot loose my life, I lost everything I have my husband run away from me and also took my children along because of my sickness. One day I was in the river side thinking the next step to take if it is to jump into the river so that I can loose my life totally or just think where I can go to get solution. so a lady walk to me telling me why am I so sad and i open up all to him telling her my stories, she told me that she can help me out that?s the reason she normally come here to help people so that they can be cured because she was into this problem before, she introduce me to a doctor how cast spells for people and gave me he number and email so i called him and also email i gather all my faiths and put in all interest to contact him through his Email address at ( , so after i have mailed him of helping get my disease cured, i respond to me fast as possible that i should not be afraid, that he is a truthful and powerful doctor which i firstly claimed him to be. So after all set has been done, he promise me that i will be healed but on a condition that i provide him some items and obeyed all his oracle said. I did all by accepting his oracle fact and only to see that the following week Dr.ojugo mail me on my mail box that my work is successfully done with his powers, i was first shocked and later arise to be the happiest woman on earth after i have concluded my final test on the hospital by my doctor that i am now HIV- Negative. My papers for check are with me and now i am happy and glad for his miraculous help and power.With these i must to everyone who might seek for any help, either for HIV cure or much more to contact him now at these following email now,Email: ( " sir thank you so much for your immediate cure of my disease, i must say for curing my disease, i owe you in return. Thanks and be blessed sir. and His Email address is: ( or you can call him via his cell phone number on +2348112237749

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